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    Post by bigbangislove on Mon 22 Jun 2009, 9:50 am

    Seems as though netizens (who I love) have been recently getting offended by SNSD's album cover. Why you may ask? Well check this out:


    Is that the Japanese Zero-zen air-fighter?


    For those of you who are savvy on your history (Korean history to be exact) the Airplane is an exact replica of the Japanese WWII Zero-zen fighter that the imperialist Japanese used to make kamikaze attacks! The only thing lacking is the Japanese flag!



    Why yes, yes it is the zero-zen air-fighter!


    Wow, not only is SNSD stupid, so is their management (but we already knew that).

    Some netizens commented that "As the nation's representative idol group, they have hurt the feelings of Koreans", "Not just the fighter plane, the marine uniforms that they are wearing reminds one of the Japanese imperialism period." and of course stupid sones as usual will even compromise their race and morals to defend them "This is the fault of the album cover designer, SNSD has done no wrong." (We're not blaming SNSD, but this is still very wrong)!

    SNSD's PR admitted that the plane bared similarities but refused to outright admit that it is a replica (of course).

    SM commented, "The album cover for SNSD had been designed based on the marine girl concept, there's no hidden meaning to it at all."

    South Korea is still hurt over WWII, how could they dare to be stupid enough to have a plane that remotely looks like the zero-zen fighter being Korean themselves? Why would a Korean group even want to use a Marine/Air force circa WWII theme for their "comeback"? Why!?

    Seriously is SNSD's management striving to make them even more hated?

    Are SM insinuating in any way that they don't even screen the progress of SNSD's "comeback"?

    It's not even an amateur mistake, with any/every product that you release it reflects directly upon your company. Duh. Thus, SM must and will have to OK and stamp on every piece in order for it to be on the market. It bares their name and the reputation with it. Not forgetting the money from the shareholders.

    For them to claim that it isn't a Japanese zero-zen air-fighter, they're claiming that something so damn obvious was made to go under their radar, or that they simply don't find it worthy of any bother.

    So, um, all that violent history of constant war, assassination of your Royalty, enslaving the people and occupation goes down the toilet cos SM finds it OK to have the word "SONE"... ON IT?!

    That in itself has insane connotations of Sone conquering your land, which to me is quite baffling.

    That plane is on every cover we've seen so far, in the same place, the idea that its a phallic symbol hasn't passed us, nevertheless the "offence-meter" with this one goes through the roof.

    We dont care who is to blame, just friggin change it. And while you're at it, change their name.

    Oh, and aren't they representing Korea with the KTO? Cant they're company pay some attention to actually "representing" their Country correctly.


    P.S. The missiles don't go unnoticed either.


    UPDATE:

    Seems that the release of SNSD's 2nd mini album will be pushed back from the original date of June 25th to 29th of June.

    And we quote:
    SM Entertainment said, We have plans to eliminate parts of the album cover, like those of the military icons, which had led to many misunderstandings and misinterpretation lately. We will take out the problematic parts, and will replace it with super sonic training plane T-50 developed by Korea.

    Their comeback stage on the 26th will still go as planned, which makes one wonder as to WHAT concept SNSD will be taking after all the controversy their "Marine Girl" look has received. This time, its not just Korean netizens, but Japanese netizens who are picking SNSD's concept apart equating their uniforms with, lo and behold, the Nazi regime.




    Netizens have even went far as to call SNSD "war crime shi dae" and not anymore "So Nyeo (girls) Shi Dae (generation)". Such examples for the youth, indeed.

    We'll just have to wait and see how far SME is willing to take this OFFENDING concept, as they still insist it was not intentional.


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    Post by JJeanw on Mon 22 Jun 2009, 11:01 am

    sm put the worst at the bottom XD
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    Post by jaejae19 on Mon 22 Jun 2009, 11:32 am

    Wow. What a great way to do a comeback!


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    Post by super_jessy on Mon 22 Jun 2009, 11:55 am

    lol~!
    way to go SNSD, seriously. =P

    get the rest of korea to hate you.

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    Post by sXiAHn on Mon 22 Jun 2009, 12:26 pm

    i dont understand how aircraft have anything to do with marine (shouldnt it have been a submarine or something of the sort?) . . . nor do i understand how marine have anything to do with genie (err . . . what about dressing up as aladdin or something, wait, nvm they'll just corrupt disney)? o.O

    but seriously . . . what is wrong with sm lately and their staffs. seems like someones been slacking off. hopefully their album cover and will get banned and they'll have to retake pictures for their minialbum jacket again . . . hopefully they'll put on real pants this time.
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    Post by Zoy on Mon 22 Jun 2009, 1:10 pm

    ^ LOL genies and marines have no connection whatsoever.

    I guess they tried to do the whole pin-up girl being magical like genie, but even then it fails.

    Man, SME is really slacking lately. Maybe the cover designer is an anti?! rabbit


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    Post by lirujoong on Mon 22 Jun 2009, 1:30 pm

    Wow... the plane looks exactly the same. It looks like their album cover artists just cut out that picture, paste it on, and change certain colors... It's in the same exact position too!
    This will definately cause controversy once it breaks out, especially in Korea who have alot of country pride

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    Post by Bento_box on Mon 22 Jun 2009, 2:12 pm

    So, if we put aside the constant bickering over Dokdo, the recent death of Ex-President Roh who tried to have proper relations with North Korea that was split up because of WW2, we can get to the other damage done and still seen because of the Japanese in World War 2.

    Jeju Island was used as an air base for the Japanese while they fought with American forces, they forced the locals to dig tunnels day and Night and build barracks,etc for them. And wasnt it that plane and its brothers that were shooting at Pearl Harbor all those years ago?

    This is an extremely sensitive issue, don't try to brush it under the rug.

    But apparently the people that SM hired out to make those covers were so lost, ignorant and foolhardy that they forgot all those facts and used the exact plane image, even to the decor on the side and the numbering on the tail?

    Please, dont treat us as fools, that's the people you employ SME to handle Public Affairs and in SNSD.

    As much as I am enraged at something so insulting being seen as something blase by SME, I do feel this is a twisted attempt at some major publicity.

    It's not a case of blaming SNSD themselves for this mistake (I doubt such ignoramuses as TaeYeon will know much on anything), it's the simple fact that SM probably feel that without such major publicity (although negative), SNSD will be somewhat ignored this "comeback". Fact of the matter is, no Korean would make that mistake, and so boldly place it near the center and edit it to say "Sone".

    And the planes do have something to do with the navy~


    These planes were docked on aircraft carriers controlled by the Navy. It's the "Genie" thing thats too lost with the apparent new "concept".

    And that pic provided seems like the actual cut out used, also hinting at an inside job.


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    Post by elfandwonderful on Mon 22 Jun 2009, 2:32 pm

    thier song is already no.1 in 2 online charts!!
    S<3nes freak me out!!! I swear lee soo man is cheating and downloading the song more than 100,000 times at once so it looks like OTHER ppl have bought the song! Stupid!! The song is stupid!!! Sluts!!! Hope fully Wonder Girls returns soon!!
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    Post by Labakittie on Mon 22 Jun 2009, 2:57 pm

    LMAO! Controversy out the gate. How very...not surprising. :/ And no, SNSD is not themselves to blame for this ridiculousness. But it IS ridiculous, considering the history of Korea in regards to imperialism by Japan.

    You're telling me S. Korea doesn't have any planes?
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    Post by soshi4never on Mon 22 Jun 2009, 4:50 pm

    The cover reminds me of a bad propaganda poster..
    I want to thank all the netizens for finding this out (:
    i really don't understand why putting marine outfits/planes/missiles have to do with "tell me your wish (genie)"?
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    Post by SUJUDB on Mon 22 Jun 2009, 4:55 pm

    Labakittie wrote:LMAO! Controversy out the gate. How very...not surprising. :/ And no, SNSD is not themselves to blame for this ridiculousness. But it IS ridiculous, considering the history of Korea in regards to imperialism by Japan.

    You're telling me S. Korea doesn't have any planes?

    True but SNSD will be dragged down by the horrible reputation SME is going to have due to this controversy. (as will other artists and future SME artists). Even if they managed to clear this, the elders and people who have lived through/after WWII will have this engrained in their brains/thoughts and SME's reputation will be gone down the drain (not all but you know what I mean).
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    Post by puppy_ox on Mon 22 Jun 2009, 5:04 pm

    i really dont get it
    they're suppose to be Marine girls,fine,our Marine girls w plane on cover and ride Harley Davidson in their song
    whats kind of Marine ?
    its get worse and worse ,Japanese WW2 air-fighter
    shame on Marine Girls
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    Post by hiyostand on Mon 22 Jun 2009, 8:36 pm

    What happened to the navy concept? I thought boats and subs were in the water not the sky!

    That not being the point....I remember there was a commercial a while ago about world war 2 and something with nazis. That whole concept was completely slammed. You think they would learn from something like that. That was just a cf this is an album cover that will last for a while.

    This will not settle well with the more elderly and those who know history.

    I am sick of seeing snsd and their ignorant management!
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    Post by stand<3 on Mon 22 Jun 2009, 10:02 pm

    and there goes the sushi rollers again!!
    trying to defend their sluts!!

    blaming everything on other people!!
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    Post by taiyou_no_namida on Mon 22 Jun 2009, 10:49 pm

    ^ Too true!
    ROFL. Seriously, can this get any worse?
    Mediocre song.
    Porn.
    And now this? Ha!
    For shame!
    Even I, who is 2 generations from WWII. I'm still bitter over it! Why? Because I've seen war. Real war. By some unfortunate turn of events when I was a kid.
    How dare they use the kamikaze plane?!!

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    Stupid SM.

    Then they're thinking they can compete with the other girl groups out there with this? Oh my...no matter if that song topped 2 music charts. Everyone knows it's rigged anyway.

    After School's "AH," "Play Girlz," and "Bad Guy" and 2NE1's "Fire" still top girls' degeneration's fail song. Big time.
    So much for maturity.
    They EPIC FAIL yet again.
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    Post by yudit on Mon 22 Jun 2009, 11:01 pm

    honestly i think this is a publicity stunt more than anything else. everything about them now screams attention wh*re.
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    Post by bof on Mon 22 Jun 2009, 11:41 pm

    I read a Sone comment on Youtube saying she didn't know Korea was still mad at Japan for the events that happened during WWII. That was probably the most ridiculous thing I've read (for obvious reasons, or maybe not so obvious in some peoples' case).
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    Post by smittens on Tue 23 Jun 2009, 12:03 am

    Tsk tsk, they don't hold up their name shitdae for nothing. Mad
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    Post by yoomi on Tue 23 Jun 2009, 12:11 am

    yudit wrote:honestly i think this is a publicity stunt more than anything else. everything about them now screams attention wh*re.

    Yes exactly. What with the pwnage by other girl groups, SNSD won't stand a chance, that's why they have to spark up yet another controversy to get noticed. Fail yet again.

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    Post by bigbangislove on Tue 23 Jun 2009, 2:24 am

    The reason that though they are "Marine girls" and their concept involves the Air force is due to exactly what Bento said:
    These planes were docked on aircraft carriers controlled by the Navy. It's the "Genie" thing that's too lost with the apparent new "concept".
    I think SM did this purposely for some reason. The Navy controlled some aircraft carriers, which is why they mixed this "Marine girl" concept with the air force (which usually has no relation). I personally believe they were inspired by WWII somehow. Why the heck else would they mix "marine girls" and the air force together? They intended to do it in my opinion hence having the Zero-zen fighter. Truly the only thing that doesn't make sense is the candy and the "Genie" part.

    Geez, just get these girls some belly-dance outfits and have them do a few belly-dance moves so it'll be more fitting, ne?

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    Post by AngelWings on Tue 23 Jun 2009, 3:11 am

    yeah i know its shitdae's fault about the concept ( i betting some of them didnt know about the aircraft history ) but the design / concept team. they should have thought about the public's reaction upon seeing the covers.. it may had trigger some bad memories that alot of koreans tried hard to forget. bad part for those people behind the single and SME too for giving the go signal.

    and about the pushing back of the single, havent they thought that changing the cover will be ok?? look at the mv ( well the teaser ).. the girls wore trashy clothes and pornish.. so better change the album cover AND the mv too .

    but then i dont think people will forget this incident right away. so better luck next time to these girls. just remember to polish everything first before releasing albums / videos... and not rush things cos your so called popularity is being threathened by other more talented girlgroups.


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    Post by queenbee on Tue 23 Jun 2009, 3:17 am

    War Crime Generation indeed.. there goes another point to add to SNSD's black list, but this time, they're taking the hate internationally...


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    Post by Telruunya on Tue 23 Jun 2009, 5:01 am

    Yeah I saw this news before, but I havn't seen the NAZI cross-thing..
    you don't even know how people would be offended in my country,

    That thing is practically forbidden here.
    2nd world war with the Germans.. they wear that NAZIcross to let other people see they were for Germany and killed all Jew people.
    If people see that ( especially old people who've been in that war) would be really offended and eventually (cry inside) because they had experienced that awful war.

    that NAZIcross is really REALLY a shame!

    Not only for the country I live in, but for more country's.
    They should know right? especially since they know that they have international fans. It's really stupid. ( you might thing I'm over doing it, but it's the truth. )
    Also they say that it IS the deigner's fault. And it IS wrong to blame warcrimeshitD. BUT it is definatly wrong! They can say that they agree with the concept and all? I mean if they didn't want to wear those crossdressmarinesuit thing they could say they didn't want to. ShitD doesn't put their nation to shame only, but also other nations.

    GREAT WORK warcrimegeneration! [sarcasm]

    It's ridiculous.
    and the song sucks.


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    Post by Deliberately on Tue 23 Jun 2009, 5:25 am

    This is call trying too hard. To be honest.. they look nice with amount of photoshop who wouldn't... even more plastic than ever. But SERIOUSLY their CONCEPT IS....

    LOST... literally

    with a perverted song about genie (christina anyone?) and the beat that sounded SO MUCH like Rihanna's "Please Don't Stop the Music".. and them wearing SAILORS holding planes??

    SERIOUSLY.. WHAT KIND OF SCREWED UP CONCEPT IS THAT.... I think they're so threaten by 2NE1 and Wonder Girls coming back soon.. but seriously .....it's like they're a bunch of lame cosplayers.. HECK COSPLAYERS DO BETTER THAN THEM because they handle makeup and costumes by themselves....

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