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    DREAM CONCERT 2010 - Starting as Chaos

    Post by leexiao on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 6:09 am

    The DREAM CONCERT is near, and another fanwar is taking place...


    SNSD is said to be taking 3 sections for the concert while Super Junior is taking 3 TIMES more than that, and that's where the issue began.

    SONES are angry saying that Suju (ELF to be exact) got more seats than them when they are (according to them) the bigger fan club.

    This is where it gets ugly. ELF fansites just suggested that SONES should just fill the "free seating area" (yes there is one) but SONES don't want to listen and SNSD fansites united for this:



    Rough translation:


    LMNP section - if extra space is needed this year, this area is ours

    For those who are Sone:
    ABC section is ours

    Please get tickets from the LMNP section

    Go to G-market's Dream Concert webpage
    tickets will be sold starting 7PM on April 22

    (for every 1 person, recommend this to 2 more)

    SNSD fansites actually spread that banner about taking the reserved seats from Suju fans...

    According to sources, ELF are starting to flood different fansites with messages such as this:

    After this, E.L.F. went very mad, because basically Sone are looking down on them as if there was not many ELF at all, and why take -their- seats when there are many others....

    Yesterday, Sone fansite masters decided to remove those notice and ask fellow Sones to give up the tickets they got in the Suju sections and to buy in Soshi sections and in the "Free" section (there are sections for all the other groups that do not have special ones

    But it seems that Sones are not following the new directives and are keeping their tickets in ELF Sections. ELF are getting quite mad as you can see on sj-market splashpage where they ask fans to concentrate on reserving seats in the L, M, N, P section to prove Sones wrong.
    A lot of ELF that did not plan to go are now buying their tickets.

    EDIT:
    News sites have also gotten hold of Sones' dirty plan.


    “SNSD only gets 3 sections? We’re more popular … Why do we have less number of seats than Super Junior fans?”

    A month before the 2010 Dream Concert is to be held on May 22, tensions are already rising.

    At the Dream Concert, many popular artists come to the same venue and perform, making it unique. Since it only comes once a year, this is seen as an opportunity for fans to give their favorite singers strength, becoming one. On April 22, tickets went on sale at 7PM and were sold out within one hour, as a result of fans who wanted to go support their favorite singers.

    Instead, problems are arising with the division of seats. At first, there isn’t any assigned seating arrangement for fans of one artist. Instead, the organizers contact the entertainment companies, assigning them sections so the the entertainment companies can report this to the respective fan clubs through their official websites.

    Fan clubs that receive less sections argue, “Is the singer whom I love so much only worth this much? The division of seats are not a true reflection of the total fan club members.”

    SNSD fans have been assigned sections A~C for the Dream Concert, while label mates Super Junior received thrice the amount of seats.

    .....

    After all the tickets for the Dream Concert have been purchased, fans create an online message board war. Some SNSD fansites requested for their seats to be reassigned since fans “didn’t know how they were divided”. Four fansites told fans to sit in Super Junior’s section if there wasn’t enough room, making Super Junior fans complain that there weren’t enough seats for them. ELFs also responded saying,“It’s only correct to book according to the assigned seats. Please maintain order.”

    ....

    In response to these arguments, organizers stated,

    "We have only followed the requests from the fan clubs and the companies. There are no rules saying that only fans of particular artists can sit in any given one area. If there are requests beforehand, we would take those into consideration but there is no need for us to assign certain regions. We have been doing this event for 16 years and thanks to the stability of the fandom culture, we are hoping that we get lots of support. We will always be ready for any fights that may break out between fans at the concert."

    One fan club member worriedly posted, “In a concert like Dream Concert, we are not there to see the singers but to support them with other fans. If the entertainment company and the fan club cannot control the amount of seats they get, the fights over seats that may break out can turn into a battle of emotions and turn the site into chaos.”

    Original news link
    Translator

    There is also a rumor regarding another issue related to this, however, THIS IS JUST A RUMOR AND NOT CONFIRMED (rather, it's something HARD TO CONFIRM)

    SJ's leader, Leeteuk's cyworld was just hacked and some are saying that it was done by a SONE (considering how Sone's always brag about being good in computer things)... everything was closed down, and the BGM was changed to this:


    It says "ASIAN FREAK SHOW - SUPER JUNIOR" at the bottom

    Spoiler:
    A/N! i find this ridiculous and if the thing about leeteuk's cyworld is true, then that's 100% desperation...

    SNSD fans and people claiming to be "neutrals" have all been saying that DC2008 is years ago and that it is time to move on for SNSD and their fans have learned from it. However, it seems that Sones have not learned anything from their past mistakes and are again on the path to self-destruction. Funny how again, they manage to piss off the LARGEST fanbase in the concert.

    Is it time for another Black Ocean?



    Admin note: did some minor tweaking, added translation and news posted by kxluv :)


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    Re: DREAM CONCERT 2010 - Starting as Chaos

    Post by myap611 on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 6:15 am

    And i thought sones couldnt get any lower but looks like i was wrong Such delsusionals, ELF is like much more then 3x bigger.
    -Rolls eyes- Sosh*t being bigger? Puh-lease in their Wet Ahjussi dreams. If i could i would ban them from the concert completely. Razz
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    Post by shitdaesucks on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 7:12 am

    I can't wait for another boycott.

    Seriously, they are SOOOOO arrogant, it pisses me off.



    Wonder Girls were promised to be the highlight of the concert, yet WonderFuls only get like 3 blocks (2 corner blocks), but I don't see WonderFuls attacking others just because of that.
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    Post by oozp on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 7:14 am

    ELF has always been very tolerant towards the ridiculous shit that Sones put up so Sones must have taken ELF to be a pushover.. but this is honestly too much. I'll like to see how Sones get away with this one.
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    Post by kxluv on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 7:21 am

    cassiopeia's absent from dream concert and sones think they're the new "king" FC...pffft
    here's another article about this

    “SNSD only gets 3 sections? We’re more popular … Why do we have less number of seats than Super Junior fans?”

    A month before the 2010 Dream Concert is to be held on May 22, tensions are already rising.

    At the Dream Concert, many popular artists come to the same venue and perform, making it unique. Since it only comes once a year, this is seen as an opportunity for fans to give their favorite singers strength, becoming one. On April 22, tickets went on sale at 7PM and were sold out within one hour, as a result of fans who wanted to go support their favorite singers.

    Instead, problems are arising with the division of seats. At first, there isn’t any assigned seating arrangement for fans of one artist. Instead, the organizers contact the entertainment companies, assigning them sections so the the entertainment companies can report this to the respective fan clubs through their official websites.

    Fan clubs that receive less sections argue, “Is the singer whom I love so much only worth this much? The division of seats are not a true reflection of the total fan club members.”

    SNSD fans have been assigned sections A~C for the Dream Concert, while label mates Super Junior received thrice the amount of seats.

    Although it is stated, “Please book your seats in these sections,” it is actually stating that fans of a certain artist are assigned to that section. SS501’s official website stated, “Regions S~X have been assigned to us.”

    After all the tickets for the Dream Concert have been purchased, fans create an online message board war. Some SNSD fansites requested for their seats to be reassigned since fans “didn’t know how they were divided”. Four fansites told fans to sit in Super Junior’s section if there wasn’t enough room, making Super Junior fans complain that there weren’t enough seats for them. ELFs also responded saying,“It’s only correct to book according to the assigned seats. Please maintain order.”

    Meanwhile, fans of Lee Hyori and Rain only have one section each. Wonder Girls have two sections. Fans aren’t content with their seat arrangements.

    In response to these arguments, organizers stated,

    We have only followed the requests from the fan clubs and the companies. There are no rules saying that only fans of particular artists can sit in any given one area. If there are requests beforehand, we would take those into consideration but there is no need for us to assign certain regions. We have been doing this event for 16 years and thanks to the stability of the fandom culture, we are hoping that we get lots of support. We will always be ready for any fights that may break out between fans at the concert.

    One fan club member worriedly posted, “In a concert like Dream Concert, we are not there to see the singers but to support them with other fans. If the entertainment company and the fan club cannot control the amount of seats they get, the fights over seats that may break out can turn into a battle of emotions and turn the site into chaos.”

    With these tensions building up, what do you think will come out of the 2010 Dream Concert? Will peace be restored between fan clubs before the concert is held?

    Source: Shin Eunjung/sej@kmib.co.kr
    Translation: Kimbap@Kpoplive.com

    *sigh*
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    Re: DREAM CONCERT 2010 - Starting as Chaos

    Post by Telruunya on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 7:51 am

    Sone you can **** yourself.
    Do they want us to be sorry for them?

    FYI SONE, I feel more sorry for DBSK fans then your poor stupid spoiled girls.
    jeez, talking about arrogance.


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    Re: DREAM CONCERT 2010 - Starting as Chaos

    Post by ihateinsanes on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 8:07 am

    SuJu got thrice the number of blocks for ELFs eh? ROFL! This is a slap in the face for the arrogant Sone “PeppermintSuga” on youtube who had the nerve to tell anyone who would listen that SNSD were now “bigger” than Super Junior ever were in their career. Looks like the Dream Concert makers didn’t feel the same way. If Sones are dumb enough to pick on Triple S after ELFs I think it’s gonna be another black ocean for the Nation’s “Fairies”. Razz
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    Post by pi-farra on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 9:02 am

    i smell another black ocean Razz
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    Post by KARAlovely on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 9:07 am

    Sones hasn't learn much since the last time did they now.
    honestly, why can't Sone just show for respect to their seniors?
    Evey other fansite never cause them any trouble so why are those annoying Sones trying to do stupid things, are their head made of stone?

    really I always believe 13>9.
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    Post by Sachie on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 9:35 am

    Seriously, whenever I try to get neutral with some SNSD members SONEs just come to make me hate SNSD more.

    For God's sake, I don't want to turn into a SONE because I keep asking myself "How come can I be friends with these ^$@$^&$@?"

    ELF should say strong, they know that they are more than Sone.

    BUT I'M AFRAID THAT SONEs might hit them or stab them like what happened in 08
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    Re: DREAM CONCERT 2010 - Starting as Chaos

    Post by STANDadmin on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 11:12 am

    good job on researching all this information

    honestly, have Sones not learned anything? people kept saying DC2008 was sooo 2 years ago, yet here they go again and give fanclubs reason to anti..

    with the good writing and research, i feel this should be moved to the news section. again, great job :)
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    Post by tomatoguru on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 11:17 am

    Ay... this looks bad D:
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    Post by Clickable on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 11:24 am

    I hope no one gets hurt. ):
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    Post by nksh on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 12:07 pm

    *Sigh* It's make me really damn mad at those sone and make me hate them more! I'm are ELF so when this issues come, it's make me really UPSET.
    Sone really don't have a mind to think by themself? Sone doesn't have moral.
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    Post by jackman_fan on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 1:13 pm

    WOW. This has definitely PISSED ME OFF. Shocked Are they actually insisting that they have a bigger fanbase than SUPER JUNIOR? THE SUPER JUNIOR?! My gosh. I just hope no one gets hurt though I have a bad feeling a lot of bad stuff will happen. Sad They're really incredibly delusional and insane. ARGHHHH. Mad And they wonder what there are so many antis? PFFT
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    Post by ihateinsanes on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 1:33 pm

    I just hope that these Insanes won't start hating on Wonder Girls if the other fanclubs refuse to support SNSD & decide to support Wonder Girls instead. I think we are looking at a repeat of Dream Concert 2008. ELFs better arm themselves with mace or bug spray to prevent crazy Insanes from assaulting them.

    Wonderfuls weren't happy that Wonder Girls only got 2 corner blocks which is like 3 normal blocks but come on.. we are not hating on any other fanclub or planning to sit in the seats allocated to ELFs, Triple S or SNSD.

    Lee Hyori & Rain also got only one block each, I don't see their fans going apeshit like these Sones.

    jeez.. Super Junior have a FAR more powerful fanclub than SNSD. something Sones need to deal with. ASAP.
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    Post by jackman_fan on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 1:37 pm

    Agreed with what you said, ihateinsanes. They're taking this way too seriously to the point that it could become dangerous. Sad Sones really overestimate themselves. Crazy. I really hope for a black ocean this time. This should shut them up but knowing them, it won't get to their thick heads.
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    Post by KC on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 2:40 pm

    I don't like this. I hope friends will be okay.

    Talk about an ego SONE have officially lost their minds.
    Why would they even think that they are bigger then SJ
    they can't even make a pink puddle if gave the sets aways

    on top of that no othere fan clubs are acting like this.even if
    they weren't happy about the seating arrangement.

    Since when wasn't there been any assigned seating arrangement for fans of one artist?
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    Post by elfandwonderful on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 3:44 pm

    hehehehehehehehe!! i missed the black ocean!!
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    Post by ambertralala on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 3:54 pm

    Hopefully nobody gets hurts. We will know which fanclub is at blame if anyone gets hurts.
    Anyways to the Sones: Who said SNSD was more popular than Super Junior?
    Answer: Nobody did, get out of the delusional world (is that possible)

    are we heading for another silent treatment bc of this situation?
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    Post by Belicax on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 5:40 pm

    Do I see another black ocean?
    that would be dreamy!
    and wtf???

    For some reason I'm seeing Sones buying tickets for the section that's for ELF and ruin everything....
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    Post by pinkrebel18 on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 5:49 pm

    I smell another DC disaster for SNSD. blackoceanx9 @ DC 2010 coming SOON!!
    whose at fault again this time around of course it's SNSD's SONE
    ELF is a bigger fanbase so they deserve those seats. & now they're
    saying SNSD is more popular than SUJU. they can't even fill their own concert
    without the help of their hoobaes/sunbaes.. their fans can't even make a pink ocean
    for them. SUJU's Super Show is successful without the help of they're fellow labelmates, ELF can make a huge wave of Sapphire Blue Ocean.
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    Post by anti on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 6:15 pm

    OMG STFU!! Mad
    Sones think so highly of themselves.
    They obviously have not learned their lesson.

    I just hope no one will get hurt this year =(
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    Post by Lightning_Kei on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 6:59 pm

    BITCHES YOU GET 3 DAMN BLOCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Be happy you have a block!!
    Just for that they should give those 3 other blocks to ELFs!
    Damn, they're stupid...it's not like that many people will sit in the Sone section anyway.
    KARA GETS THE SAME AS YOU...AND THEIR FANS DESERVE MORE!!!!!!
    DO YOU SEE DAVICHI ON THERE?!?!?! NO. BE HAPPY YOU HAVE SOME, YOU UNGRATEFUL SONES!
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    Post by queenbee on Sat 24 Apr 2010, 10:26 pm

    this is actually scary...

    in 2008, Sones were a bit more subtle with confronting the other FCs.. but now, they're going at it head on with ELF and pissing off other FCs as well.

    3 blocks is more than enough. WG, Kara got 3, other artists got less.. did their FC go around campaigning to steal other FCs seats? NO.

    What's even funnier? This is already all over the news and korean fansites. I'm sure SNSD has read/heard about it... it would be interesting what they will do about this... but i'm not holding my breath. its a fact those 9 girls are selfish and spoiled. i'm sure its going to be Suju who will be doing something about this similar to their ONE campaign in 2008. coz unlike SNSD, SJ cares about their fans.


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